Yeah, that's pitched in your direction, though it's really more in the general direction of the anti-4E crowd. :) There's a lot of people taking a scorched earth approach to 4E that I personally don't agree with. It's not an awful game, and IMHO there are lessons to be learned and possibly repurposed for other games.
I think your comment about the player side is too general -- they did build something as solid, it's just not your style of play. There are plenty of folks who love it ... and that's because it does fit their style of play.
I don't think that D&D 4E is doomed to crash and burn because, at least from anecdotal evidence, their strategy of trying to pull in younger, more video-game oriented players is working. I've seen more than a few blog comments from new players who say "third edition was too complicated, I just wanted to be able to swing my axe" and then say that 4th edition does exactly what they want (as infuriating as that may be for those like us who love all of 3E's crunchy bits).
And as I've said offline, I don't think this is anything new. There has always been a "Basic D&D" vs. "Advanced D&D" split among the player base. With 3rd Edition, the AD&D crowd won out; with 4th Edition, the Basic crowd did.
Sun, 08/10/2008 - 11:30am
Yeah, that's pitched in your direction, though it's really more in the general direction of the anti-4E crowd. :) There's a lot of people taking a scorched earth approach to 4E that I personally don't agree with. It's not an awful game, and IMHO there are lessons to be learned and possibly repurposed for other games.
I think your comment about the player side is too general -- they did build something as solid, it's just not your style of play. There are plenty of folks who love it ... and that's because it does fit their style of play.
I don't think that D&D 4E is doomed to crash and burn because, at least from anecdotal evidence, their strategy of trying to pull in younger, more video-game oriented players is working. I've seen more than a few blog comments from new players who say "third edition was too complicated, I just wanted to be able to swing my axe" and then say that 4th edition does exactly what they want (as infuriating as that may be for those like us who love all of 3E's crunchy bits).
And as I've said offline, I don't think this is anything new. There has always been a "Basic D&D" vs. "Advanced D&D" split among the player base. With 3rd Edition, the AD&D crowd won out; with 4th Edition, the Basic crowd did.
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